When Heartbreak Awakens Purpose: Sarah's Story | Healing Heroines

After the sudden loss of her father, Sarah went searching for answers and found them in a remarkable reading with Hero and Psychic Medium Lea Morgan. In this Healing Heroines episode, Sarah and Lea trace how one surprising session opened the door to ongoing spiritual connection with her deceased father, meaningful confirmations, and an unexpected pivot toward providing spiritual services for others. 

This conversation is for anyone experiencing a season of grief, curiosity, or a little bit of both. Discover how the unseen can show up in your life.

What You Will Learn

• [00:10:57] How a simple Google search led Sarah to Lea’s website, she booked a reading, and “everything changed.”
• [00:15:46] The pocket-watch moment — how a detail from a reading connected to Sarah’s family heirloom and shifted her sense of what was possible.
• [00:21:50] How repeated confirmations (Lea telling Sarah she’d have a daughter) became a steady thread of hope during an uncertain time.
• [00:23:02] What it looked like when Lea described Sarah’s future daughter — playful, musical, and already showing personality — and how that matched life later.
• [00:24:07] The idea that souls and ancestors can “hang out” with a child in utero and sometimes communicate before birth.
• [00:31:34] What Sarah experienced as a sudden “download” of information that clarified a new career direction toward spiritual coaching and death-doula work.
• [00:34:20] Sarah’s practical playbook for opening to guidance: gratitude walks, regular meditation, and asking for signs or clarity.
• [00:54:29] The comfort Sarah found in the belief that relationships continue after death — and how that shifted her experience of grief.

Resources Mentioned

• Many Lives, Many Masters by Brian L. Weiss (Book)
• Dying to Be Me by Anita Moorjani (Book)
• Hiring the Heavens by Jean Slatter (Book)
• Lessons from the Light by Kenneth Ring (Book)

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Transcript

[00:00:05] Chandler Stroud: Hey guys, it's Chandler and welcome to The Healing Heroes. I promise you.

[00:00:13] I'm Chandler Stroud, an executive wife and busy mom of two who after years of living with anxiety. Health struggles and an unshakeable feeling like I should be happier, made a profound discovery that changed everything. Join me on a journey where unexpected paths lead to healing and more happiness. On this show, we will explore unconventional ways to unlock more joy in your own life with the help of my very own healers.

[00:00:45] And trusted advisors, the Healing Heroes.

[00:00:52] Hey everyone, and welcome back to the Healing Heroes podcast. I'm your host Chandler, and today we're featuring another Healing Heroine episode, a format where I sit down with one of our healing heroes alongside a woman that they've supported through her own healing journey. This one is really special.

[00:01:11] Today's story is about grief. Connection and what happens when we remain open-minded, curious, and are willing to push the boundaries of our familiar spaces into new and exciting territories. You'll hear from Sarah, a woman who lost her father in 2019 and found herself seeking comfort and answers. What was for her An unexpected place, A session with Psychic Medium and Healing Hero Lee Morgan.

[00:01:42] What started as an innocent Google search led to a single reading and later became an unexpected journey of transformation. Sarah has now not only met with Lee on multiple occasions. But is on her own path to becoming a spiritual guide and death doula, helping others navigate loss with grace and love all while still working her corporate role.

[00:02:08] First, let me tell you a little bit more about Sarah before we dive into her story. Sarah Hardy Johnson has had a successful career in software sales for the last 15 years, and currently resides in Atlanta with her husband and two young children outside of her corporate career. She is also a trained yoga instructor and a transcendental meditation and enthusiast.

[00:02:31] On the path to becoming a spiritual coach, deaf doula, sound healer, and reiki practitioner, Sarah's passion is guiding others to live with less fear of the end so they can embrace the fullness of life in the present moment. I am also thrilled to have our hero and psychic medium, Lee Morgan back on the show today.

[00:02:53] I've introduced Lee many times before on the show, but for our new listeners tuning in, here's a brief overview of Lee's work. After careers in advertising and interior design, Lee couldn't shake the poll to fully open up to and understand her intuitive gifts. She now offers mediumship and intuitive guidance readings.

[00:03:13] And hopes to help normalize the perception of psychic work by sharing her own journey openly through workshops, interviews, and information provided on her website. Lee Sarah, thank you so much for being here today. I am so excited for this conversation. Thank you for having us so much. So excited. Me too and Sarah.

[00:03:34] It is sort of tradition when we have a healing heroine on the show. We like to start off with a few light warmup questions, so I'm gonna turn it over to Lee first. Lee, what's something beautiful or unexpected that you've witnessed or observed in one of your sessions recently? I immediately think of like information I get during a session that seems impossible.

[00:03:58] Lea Morgan: To get one is I was talking to a woman's grandfather and she happened to have two deceased grandfathers. So she said, Hmm, I wonder which one it is. And right when she said that, an image flashed in my mind of an older man holding a banana. Now. I don't know what that means, but it's not my job to know, right?

[00:04:18] So I said, well, I don't know which grandfather, but I just saw an image of a man holding a banana. And she started dying laughing. And she said, I know exactly who that is. And I said, can you please explain? And she said, my grandfather felt like we were all low in potassium. And he, she called him a banana pusher.

[00:04:37] She was like, every time you turned around, he was trying to get you to eat a banana. He was always coming in saying, have you had a banana today? I mean. Come on, love a wow. That's incredible. Love that. Sarah, what's one small thing bringing you peace or joy? Lately? I think for me this morning, you know, like a nature walk.

[00:04:57] Sarah: I went on one and there's something about just like walking with no expectation in nature, observing. Sometimes I'll take my little kids and we call it a nature walk, where you just try to like take in the little leaves and the details, but this morning I saw a deer and we were very close to each other and just kinda like looking at each other for a few minutes, just checking each other out, and it was just so peaceful, so comforting.

[00:05:21] Just brought me calm. So. Nature walks are the winner today. 

[00:05:26] Chandler Stroud: That resonates deeply. That's where I find peace and calm also is nature walks and when I need it, looking for those signs. So I love that you saw a deer. That's beautiful. 

[00:05:36] Sarah: Me too. It's funny 'cause at the beginning of the walk I was like, it'd be so cool to see a deer.

[00:05:41] Chandler Stroud: You manifested that. Show me a deer. 

[00:05:44] Sarah: Totally. 

[00:05:44] Chandler Stroud: So let it be. Wish. I would love to see a deer today. Yeah, they are. They're so, I know so many people get so annoyed with the deer eating their stuff, but like I can't. I think they're beautiful. I love them. I really do. 

[00:05:55] Sarah: They're special. Mm-hmm. 

[00:05:57] Chandler Stroud: Okay. Well thank you for that, ladies.

[00:05:58] I really appreciate you both sharing. Now let's get into the meat of the conversation today. Sarah, to the extent you're comfortable sharing, I'd love to know more about your story. Prior to meeting Lee. What was life like and what ultimately happened that made you want to seek out her guidance or her help?

[00:06:19] Sarah: I mean, for me, life has always been very, very good. Specifically though, May 12th, 2019 stands out as a significant date. So just to give you context. My husband and I had gotten married in January of that year, and we had just gotten back from our honeymoon, so we did. He and I spent a week in Switzerland and Lake Como, and then we met my parents, my sister and her husband in Florence, Tuscany, and Rome.

[00:06:46] So we had just gotten back from like the best week with family ever. We were in the Sistine Chapel, looking up at the ceiling, talking about heaven. So many beautiful things. And so we get back and. That that Sunday was May 12th. It was Mother's Day anyway, so my dad was in perfect health, 60 years old, you know, all cut up on his, you know, doctor's appointments, did yoga every morning and for whatever reason, went to sleep Saturday night and didn't wake up Sunday morning.

[00:07:19] So it was. I would say one of the biggest shocks, certainly the, probably the most impactful, I would say, event of my life so far and that kind of thing. You know, you, you wake up, I was the first person my mom called, my sister was actually still in Italy, and you know, it feels kind of like a nightmare. It feels like, how do I wake up from this?

[00:07:42] How do I get out of this one? It's just also shocking. So long story short, I. Remember the first moment of peace coming when our reverends came to my house, my whole family was there, his mother, my husband, my mom, et cetera. We're all kind of standing in a circle just generally feeling terrible. It's the depths of despair is how I would describe it.

[00:08:03] And so our reverend says, I have complete confidence that we will see e Hardy again one day. And when he said that, I was like, oh my goodness. That is the one moment where. Like if that's true, then it's gonna be okay. Like if that's true, I can make it. So I held onto that. We did his eulogy or we had his funeral.

[00:08:27] There were 1800 people that attended his funeral in Atlanta. 

[00:08:31] Chandler Stroud: Oh my god, Sarah. That's incredible. 

[00:08:33] Sarah: Yeah. My sister and I did his eulogy. We actually live streamed it. 'cause there was people in Spain, there was people all over that couldn't make it to Atlanta and wanted to see it. So you can imagine how special he was and is just a massive personality and he and I were super close.

[00:08:48] So anyway, after that happened, I had a friend whose dad passed similarly. We think it was a deep vein thrombosis from travel, by the way. But we don't know for sure. Her dad passed similarly, she gave me a book called Many Lives, many Masters. This was like a week after he passed and that paired with other books from friends.

[00:09:06] One of them was Dying to Be Me by Anita Mujani sort of kicked off this like spiritual quest of like, I have to figure out where he. Is as much as I possibly can about the afterlife, about heaven, about spiritual, everything. It started off with just like as much research as I could possibly do on near death experiences.

[00:09:30] I literally went to like the near-death experience website and just like read, you know, hundreds of these experiences, which by the way are. All over the world, all over different cultures and so many commonalities that it's like so comforting and so just, it has to be true. You know? So I think that I was, I was doing a lot of reading, a lot of just like searching, seeing what came, but with no.

[00:09:53] No expectation, no nothing. And then I had seen a documentary on Netflix sometime in 2021, I think beginning of 2021, and it was called Surviving Death. It was with Dr. Mary Neil. She talked about her near death experience, and then they go into mediumship throughout the later episodes. And I can't remember, but there was one or two other things that kind of brought me closer to this idea of seeing a medium and being like, wow, that would be like.

[00:10:19] Just really cool, but probably will never happen for me and whatever. So, long story short, you know, I was compelled for whatever reason, to just search for one, just Google and just looked up, you know, psychic medium in Atlanta and the first time I came to it. Nothing really connected. I was kinda like, this feels weird.

[00:10:40] Then maybe two days later, I think it was, I came back and I came across Lee's website, Lee on Earth. I remember it very well and something was like, this feels right, this is right. So I made an appointment. And then, you know, everything changed 

[00:10:57] Chandler Stroud: and you haven't looked back. That's right. And I think, you know, we were talking in the first conversation that we had.

[00:11:04] Isn't there another connection between you and Lee that you discovered later? 

[00:11:08] Sarah: Yeah, so it was like, I don't know, our second or third reading, and my dad showed her a picture of her uncle's lake house with a red jeep and. She put it together that like, sometimes they will almost use it as like a shortcut.

[00:11:24] Like they're able to show her everything that she knows and that's available in her. And so she would associate her uncle with that and he was like, okay. They knew each other some way professionally. She goes, was your dad in real estate? And I was like, yes. So we come to find out that they knew each other well and we're gonna get more details on that story very soon.

[00:11:44] Lea Morgan: More info to come, but it 

[00:11:46] Chandler Stroud: That's so cool. Yeah. 

[00:11:48] Lea Morgan: So not only do I believe that her dad had everything to do with her connecting with me, but that, you know, he did it because he knew, you know, we had this link in common and it was a safe space for her, and it was somebody who was gonna understand him or his world or you know, our, our city.

[00:12:10] So, totally a safe 

[00:12:11] Sarah: space. Mm-hmm. 

[00:12:13] Chandler Stroud: I love that. And you. Sarah, you alluded to this a little bit as you were talking, and first off, thank you for sharing all of that. I think, you know, just because things happen maybe in the order that we think that is most common, like losing a parent doesn't make it any easier, especially when it's so abrupt like that and you don't feel like you have that kind of closure or the opportunity to say goodbye like.

[00:12:43] Especially when you're that close. And clearly he was such an incredible man given how many people wanted to pay the respects at the end of his life, like I just, my heart goes out to you. Thank you for sharing. I'm really sorry that you and your family had to go through that and it sounds like. It's opened up this doorway for you to explore something so much deeper than was a part of your life previously.

[00:13:10] Were you always open to things like the mystical space of whether it's like tarot, astrology, spirituality? I mean, I don't know. Was it part of your life prior to doing this exploration after your father's passing? 

[00:13:24] Sarah: So I've always been very open-minded. But it was not on my radar at all. Like I was raised Presbyterian, confirmed, you know, baptized all of that.

[00:13:33] I remember we did premarital counseling, like as part of getting married, and I spoke to the gal who did it a couple weeks ago and she was like, yeah, you know, God just wasn't on your, you know, on your radar, on your list I guess back then. So I was just kind of like very carefree, having a lot of fun, but like certainly not thinking about the deeper.

[00:13:54] Aspects of life at all. So it was very unexpected. But my sister and I talk about this often that like his passing, while we would much rather him be here physically, it has been a gift. It's been beautiful. There's been a lot of really special, you know, I would say gifts that come have come from it. So I would say my spiritual quest is one of those things and wish, wish it didn't have to happen that way, but it kind of does because you know, they have to shake you awake, sort of.

[00:14:23] So. 

[00:14:24] Chandler Stroud: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's right. And I think just in the way that you've reframed that event for yourself and the way your sister has is spiritual in itself, right? Like it just unlocked so much for the two of you. And I think that's really special that you guys can have that kind of conversation together, that's unique.

[00:14:44] Sarah: Yeah. She and I are super close, so we. We were very fortunate. 

[00:14:47] Chandler Stroud: I'm curious, what specifically was it as you think about everything you were looking into at the time that drew you to seek out a psychic medium in particular, and what were you hoping to find or feel? Do you recall going into that session?

[00:15:03] Sarah: Well, I remember having low expectations. I remember. Constantly trying to reassure myself, like don't expect for him to come through. Like he may not. So like keep your expectations low. It probably won't be like it was on Netflix, you know? And I remember just being like, let's just see. Like, let's just try.

[00:15:26] Worst case he doesn't show up. That's, I remember really making sure just to like keep the expectations super low. Little did I know Lee just blew my mind in every single way and has every single time we meet. Yeah. I mean I, I can share kind of one of the details from the first meeting that for me clinches it and is just.

[00:15:46] Something I share frequently. But yeah, on our very first meeting, she didn't know anything about me. She, you know, starts talking about how there's a father figure and he feels like he was young when he passed and all these details, and not far into it. She says, you know, he's talking to, he's telling me about a pocket watch in the closet of the townhouse, and he wants your son to have it.

[00:16:09] And I was like, what? Like I don't even know about this. So long story short, I named my son, his middle name is the same as my, my dad's een, and my dad was the fourth EEN Hardy. So I called my mom after our first meeting and I'm like, mom, did dad have a pocket watch? She was like, yes. It was a gift from his dad and from his grandfather and from his father, and.

[00:16:33] Now my son has the pocket watch. Well, I have it because he would, you know, break it, but I am holding onto it and it is like unbelievable the level of detail and specificity that she was sharing, not just in that one example. 

[00:16:50] Chandler Stroud: That is incredible. Not only that you knew that level of detail, Lee, but that it opened up this entire.

[00:16:59] Kind of moment and tradition in your family, Sarah, that you are able to see through? I mean, I can absolutely understand why he would wanna come back and communicate that and make sure that your son got that watch. What? What was that like the moment you found the watch? 

[00:17:19] Sarah: Well, it was more like after I spoke to my mom after the call.

[00:17:24] That was the moment where I was like, holy crap, something is going on. I was like, the whole day I really couldn't think about anything else but spirit. Spirit realm, whatever you wanna call it. I was like, can't concentrate on earthly matters when you get that information. I mean, I was like, this is so cool.

[00:17:43] I can't believe it. You know, I'm walking around and there's like angels watching me and they're. You know, maybe helping me get through whatever it was, like this whole thing was unlocked. It just, yeah, it blew open my, the door for me to just go and dive so much deeper into everything soul related after life.

[00:18:05] Calling on Angels while we're here. I'm reading a book right now called Hiring Heaven, and it's basically the concept of there's a whole plethora of angels waiting to be assigned a duty. And we need to give them that permission and ask them and just, just ask, and preferably say it out loud, but they are waiting to help us and I firmly believe in that.

[00:18:28] Chandler Stroud: It's true. O okay. I, I'm literally like on the side, on Amazon. Literally like, okay, adding that to my pipeline and putting, it's super quick putting, number one, hiring heaven. Hiring 

[00:18:42] Lea Morgan: happens. It's true. You know, free will is a very important aspect of our journey here. And so angels and God, and your loved ones, and even your deceased pets all can help us to a certain point.

[00:18:56] Before it interferes with free will. So if we ask for more help, they have permission to go further. So that's kind of a little bit about what Sarah's speaking of. Yeah. You know, I always say it's like if Sarah was bringing in the groceries, I could walk out and say, hi Sarah, can I help you bring in those groceries?

[00:19:14] But it would be really rude and unacceptable if I just went and grabbed them from her. 

[00:19:17] Sarah: Well, and I was gonna say, and who doesn't want more help with everything? Like Yeah. And it's so funny, she's like, I have a travel planning angel that I hired for my trip and I have a wardrobe angel who helped me walk into the store and make sure that I was super clear and knew exactly which outfits to pick that would look great on me.

[00:19:36] And it made it a fun experience when she like doesn't like shopping otherwise. So it's so fun. There's so much to play with, you know? I think that's the key is to play, to be playful with it. 

[00:19:48] Chandler Stroud: Oh, I love that. Thank you so much for sharing that. And Lee, to your other point, you always come up with the best metaphors or analogies when we're talking.

[00:19:58] Like the grocery bag one, like right on. That was great. 

[00:20:01] Lea Morgan: Yeah. 

[00:20:02] Chandler Stroud: That really brought it to life. That's so cool. I'm, I'm definitely gonna pick up that book and start asking for some more help. I mean, I was looking at spirit guides, but I'll take angels any day too. Only the park guide. Oh, why not 

[00:20:14] Lea Morgan: use everybody?

[00:20:15] Chandler Stroud: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's great. Sarah, what else stands out to you from that first reading with Lee? Obviously you were skeptical going in and you didn't wanna count on seeing your dad. He clearly came through with the pocket watch story, but like what else really kind of stood out to you and that, do you recall from that first conversation, 

[00:20:35] Sarah: I mean.

[00:20:36] What I will say is that he has come through loud and clear every single visit. So not just the first one we've, we meet every quarter. The words that she used were the words that he would use. Like he, that was one of the things that most stood out and he can't really describe it unless you know someone, but like the choice of words, you know, some like sayings they might use, like it's a piece of cake, like one, she said that and I was just like, okay.

[00:21:02] 'cause I'll look at Lee while we're on a reading and. She'll, it's as if she's literally hearing it in real time and repeating it in real time, and it's the exact words that he would use when speaking to me. So it's really like having a conversation with him and over time you get more and more comfortable with the idea of just having a conversation with him, you know, directly with this kind of translator in between.

[00:21:26] But another example is it was, let's see. This was in 2023, maybe early 2023. We were just starting to try for baby number two, and we had been very fortunate to get that immediately with my son. Get it on the first try. She says, you know, you're pregnant or you're going to be pregnant with a little girl. I think this was November, 2022.

[00:21:50] Yeah, and I was like, are you sure? My sister just had a girl. I think you might be getting it mixed up. And she was like, no, this is you. It's you. I was like, okay, sure. So for the next 20 months, she continues to tell me that. You're gonna have a girl and we are continuing to try. Hmm. And this was like the, the thread that pulled me through of like hope, keep grounded in being thankful for what's coming, which was really important during that time because it's when you don't know where the end is, it's really hard during those kind of things.

[00:22:26] And now, you know, I have an 18 month old little girl and she had been telling me for, you know, two years before I got pregnant that I was gonna have a little girl. And it was just, and I told all of my family. They were like, okay. Like I was like, it's a girl, you know? So anyways, it's crazy. Mm-hmm. It's the best.

[00:22:46] Wow. 

[00:22:46] Lea Morgan: Sarah, did we ever speak to your daughter when she was still in spirit form? 

[00:22:50] Sarah: Yeah. I do remember that. That's really funny. Well, you had given me a couple of details, which have turned out to be true. Granted, she's only 18 months, but one was that she was gonna be musically talented. She loves music.

[00:23:02] Anytime it comes on in school or at home, she's dancing. And you know, her attention just goes to the music. So I can tell that's gonna be a thing. And then otherwise you were like, she's very playful, but kind of like a smart alec sassy. And Oh my goodness, yes, she is. I've gotten that full dose of honestly, me, probably.

[00:23:23] But yeah, she is like, right now she's in like a no no, no phase where she will wave her finger in your face and say, no, no, no. So it, it's super fun and it's wild. Yeah. You should tell more how, how that works. Like how you can connect with them while they're, you know, not yet earth side. 

[00:23:43] Lea Morgan: Well, it happens a couple of ways and, and the reason I ask Sarah is 'cause, you know, I have pretty much no memory of readings, but.

[00:23:50] It can happen before you're pregnant. Because you've got to remember their souls, their souls before they're in a, a fetal body, right? So they exist and they already know they're coming to you. I mean, this is how this information gets passed. I, Lee Morgan didn't know Sarah was gonna have a baby girl.

[00:24:07] Her dad was hanging out, which is another thing. I hope he gives people relief and hope her dad was hanging out with the child already in soul form. Saying, you're going to be my granddaughter. Let's get to know each other. Let's run around and visit the whole family. I mean, all kinds of fun things happen before you're born.

[00:24:25] None of us remember this because we forget, but so she's a soul. I mean, she's a fully formed soul knowing she's going to be their child and hanging out with her deceased relatives. Particularly her grandfather, because that's who I was mainly in contact with, so I don't remember if we spoke to her at that point.

[00:24:42] Or it's also possible to speak to babies in utero, which a lot of people don't know about. We may have spoken to her then, I don't know. But the reason that is true is we don't get our veil or our forgetting of our spiritual soul nature until birth. Hmm. So in babies in utero, that's the only time we are all human and simultaneously fully awake to our soul identity.

[00:25:07] So she is in the womb and knows full well who she is as a soul in all her ancestors and soul form, and also all of her living relatives. I can't make it happen, but it it, it does happen when they decide it's a good idea. It happened early on when I was pregnant. Pregnant, yeah. So we probably spoke to her in utero.

[00:25:28] Yeah. Another thing about this that's so a, a human form for a soul is a very tight suit and it takes a while to get used to, and also it's not necessarily advantageous to be in there at the very beginning. There's really nothing to occupy, you know, in that initial cell division. So. Quite often they're just hanging around with the mom and the dad and any siblings if they had it.

[00:25:52] 'cause also, now that we're talking about this, I have a memory that she knew her brother and she would say funny things about her brother. So they're just watching and getting to know us. And then depending on the soul, there's not a one size fits all at certain, at a certain age of the fetus. I know that's a weird thing to say age, but at a certain development stage, they will then go in and depending again on the personality, they'll go in and out.

[00:26:14] It's like they'll put on the suit, take off the suit, put on the suit, take off the suit. Now some personalities will put on the suit and keep it on, but they can come and go. I mean, up to birth, I mean it all. Again, this is not a one size fits all, but they're not just rooted in there from the moment of conception and then stay for however long pregnancy is.

[00:26:34] Sarah: Yeah, I remember you told me. So my dad was telling us that he was coaching my daughter, that our family is very active and that she needs to be ready to run around. 'cause my son is like a ball of energy. And so he was telling her like, okay, they're very active family, you know, they're athletic. You need to be ready to go.

[00:26:52] And so, you know, she like. Walked super late and you know, would just want to be like carried and picked up everywhere and it's just so funny. Now she is walking faster and stuff, but it just makes a lot of sense knowing her personality. She's like, I would like to be served. Please carry me and pick me up and bring me things that would work for me.

[00:27:15] So 

[00:27:15] Chandler Stroud: that's so crazy and cool. Like I had never gone that deep with you, Lee, on like how all of this works and that souls, I mean, I guess I've known that through other exploration. I've done books, podcasts that souls get together before they come here and after. But like the concept of a deceased grandfather spending time with an.

[00:27:36] Unborn granddaughter is so cool and wild that you're living that Sarah having had those conversations before she was born, that's so comforting, special, and yeah, I mean, so comforting. 

[00:27:51] Lea Morgan: I mean, I totally understand that. You know, Sarah would very likely rather have her father in human form holding her child however, or, and it's so amazing that he knows her so well.

[00:28:03] I mean, they've spent time together in a way that we haven't been able to spend time with them. Yeah. 

[00:28:07] Sarah: You know? Well, and one thing I'll add is my. Son, this is so special. He has shared a couple times that Papa Eben will come to him in dreams and one morning he said, you know, Papa Eben came and he gave me a hug.

[00:28:20] You were laughing and we were hugging and it was really nice, mommy. And I was like, oh my God. So I, that's a whole other subject. I had had one very special dream with my dad too, where I believe that it was real, like, you know, a real. Spirit experience. Yeah. Not just like a dream where your brain is processing the day and similarly you feel, I felt the weight of his hug and he was laughing the whole time and it was, it was August of 2019 and that was really kind of like the closure that I needed was I woke up with tears running down my face, feeling the weight of his hug.

[00:28:56] Like it was just, he was literally had given me a hug in my sleep, in my dream. And it was, I wrote it down in detail 'cause I was like, that one is, that one's gonna be with me forever. That one's really special. Wow. So dreams are a whole nother thing. 

[00:29:11] Chandler Stroud: We had a part two episode about that. There we go. Part two.

[00:29:14] We'll have you back, Sarah. I can't wait. I have Oh, dreams. I've always been fascinated with dreams. There's a whole, yeah. Okay. We can't get off on that tangent today, but we're coming back to you guys. Sarah, as you continue to work together with Lee, how did your connection, not just with Lee. But even with your dad and maybe to your own intuition, sort of evolve and strengthen over time.

[00:29:39] Sarah: I mean, it's evolved into really great guidance for me. She has kind of like sprinkled, I call 'em breadcrumbs, which I didn't understand at the time, but now they make a lot of sense. So, I mean, years ago, I don't know, three or four years ago, she was telling me, you know, I'm getting a visual of you kind of like throwing a ball with a client and you're a coach, like a, not a, not a sports coach, but like a spiritual coach or some type of coach and you're doing like word association.

[00:30:09] Throwing the ball. What is the, what does the client immediately think when you say this word? And I was like, I was like, interesting. Like, that's completely not on my radar, but Sure, maybe. And then, I can't remember, maybe a few months later, or maybe a year later, she said, you know, also this idea of death doula or end of life doula, you know.

[00:30:29] I'm getting a lot of that for you. And I was like, okay, that sounds really witchy. I hope that's not true for whatever, you know, for better or 

[00:30:38] Chandler Stroud: for worse. Well, you're in a corporate sales role living this normal, seemingly like day-to-day life and death doula comes outta nowhere. I'm sure it was a little bit of a shock at the time.

[00:30:48] Sarah: Yes, it was shocking and it was like, oh my gosh, you're gonna have to shake up everything. And, but yeah, I mean slowly but surely. And then most recently, I. It was before I gave birth to Lucia, my daughter, she was like, you know, on your maternity leave, you're gonna receive a lot of information about this next career phase.

[00:31:07] And I was like, okay, can't wait. So then little do we know, like it's it happened, it was on a few walks. It was literally a download just straight to my brain and I had to go home and just write down everything that was. Being poured in. And then another time was right before bed. I was just in this like, you know, relaxed state of, I don't know, I wasn't reading, I wasn't meditating.

[00:31:34] I was just like relaxing. And literally it was as if someone plugged something in the top of my head and it was like all this information. I started pouring through and I wrote it down and it is effectively, you know, spiritual coach helping people to reduce or remove the fear of death so that they can reach their full potential now.

[00:31:58] And I was like, that sounds great. And the, the reason I knew that it was meant to be, not when Lee told me, but during the download, is because I, you get this feeling of like, it. Incredible confidence and excitement and like, just like deep fulfillment and joy. And I was like, oh man, like that is it. And I was just like so jacked up, like so excited.

[00:32:21] So she was spot on about everything. And you know, it's continued to evolve. Like I'm, right now I'm volunteering with hospice, a hospice service, and I'm a spiritual support volunteer. So kind of like dipping my toe in. The end of life doula piece, and it's been beautiful. I mean, totally losing track of time when I do it, which I think is a good sign, really feel filled up too.

[00:32:48] And, and I just think that I never, I don't know if I would've felt so comfortable taking a look at these things if it weren't for my, my meetings with. Like, I'm, I think maybe I would've found it, but I just don't know. Such a fast moving journey is what it feels like. 

[00:33:04] Chandler Stroud: Yeah. I have so many questions about that because as you know, when you and I talked, my experience was similar.

[00:33:10] Like, I went to sleep and like I love that analogy too. Just this concept of something plugging into your brain and suddenly you awake with this download of information that wasn't there before. I definitely know what that's like. And I do feel like when you're open to it and willing to get curious about it, and you have this con, it's, it's a whole body sensation.

[00:33:33] Like, oh, okay, this is it. This is what I'm supposed to go do now, like I've got it. How does someone who feels stuck right now, or maybe purposeless in their work. They might wanna a divine download. Like how do they think about making shifts, changes, or opening up their perspective so that they too can access this channel of information meant for them?

[00:33:54] Sarah: Yeah, I have like a playbook. I would say that it starts with like gratitude walks. Like you need to go on a walk and think of everything you're grateful for, just start listing it off even if you can't feel the feeling of actual gratitude. That's where you should start. And then from there you eventually become able to, you know, actually feel the feeling of being grateful even if you feel stuck, there are so many things to always be grateful for.

[00:34:20] So that would be where you would start. Then I would say for me, every other day, like my prayers after meditation alternate and there's, they're not in any specific order, but you know, at least a couple times a week, I will ask. God or my angels to show me my path, say, you know, please show me my path today.

[00:34:38] Let me see it and hear it clearly. Or another one will be, let today be a dialogue between you and me. God. So you have to, you have to like invoke this intention. You definitely have to be an active player. And then the other thing I would say is meditation or making space to receive. So, so many people are stuck, but they're doing the same old thing and they really don't have much space in their life for quiet.

[00:35:06] So for me, meditation was life changing. I do transcendental meditation. I've done a couple different kinds of, kind of like deep dives. And so it's 20 minutes twice a day. Not every day is perfect, but for me, it starts the day off. With like this, I feel fresh, I feel calm, I feel centered, and sometimes I'll get information during the meditation.

[00:35:29] I have a funny story, just like a, you know, hilarious piece, I'll say in a second, but at the end I always do a prayer, and so that's kind of like. Something of what I had already shared, or, you know, today, please let me be calm, relaxed, thoughtful, and caring and present, you know, whatever my intention is for that day.

[00:35:47] So I think if it's a recipe of kind of like all of those things, but you really do have to make space for it and do some work to cultivate it. 

[00:35:54] Chandler Stroud: Yeah. I would imagine that you do. I think I had done a few months of that kind of work prior to getting the download, like I had reconnected with something bigger than me.

[00:36:07] I had gone back in time and started healing some of those wounds. To open myself up to that kind of gratitude and realize that things were happening for me, not to me, which I think is a trap we all get stuck in so often. So I love that playbook. I think that's an easy one for people to follow. And I think I, the other thing I love about it is it really emphasizes the importance of meditation and getting quiet with yourself, which I think we know is important, but so frequently.

[00:36:39] Is so difficult to do for the modern woman who is just going, going, going all day long, but mm-hmm. Even finding a few minutes to just be still and be quiet with yourself. Can be such an unlock for these types of dialogues. 

[00:36:53] Sarah: Totally. I mean, for me it's a non-negotiable, it's, I liken it to kind of like a bath for your soul.

[00:36:59] Chandler Stroud: Mm-hmm. 

[00:37:00] Sarah: Once you get good at it, once you do it more, once you practice a little bit and you have that first one where it's just like peace and quiet and that fullness of like connecting to the higher power whatever is. Bigger than US Life force. Or Life Source. I was like addicted. I was like, oh my gosh, I want that again.

[00:37:19] Do you do meditation 

[00:37:20] Chandler Stroud: or do you just sit there in silence? I think that's good for listeners to know too. 

[00:37:24] Sarah: Transcendental meditation. You have a mantra, so you start off with the first two minutes of just kind of like. Calming down and just getting still and present. So like listening to what's happening around you, grounding you in the room.

[00:37:36] Then you slowly start to focus on your mantra, which is just a sound. It doesn't have a meaning. It's just a word that doesn't mean anything, but you say it silently to yourself. And having thoughts is very normal. It's part of the process. It's actually a sign that you're kind of like releasing. Stress is having a thought come up.

[00:37:55] But over time, your attention kind of drifts towards the mantra. Then you'll find that there's quiet and mantra and then no mantra, just quiet. Oh yeah. And so what they say is you've gone to like pure consciousness, you know, the unified source or unified field is that quiet space. A lot of people would say that you're, you know, with God there.

[00:38:18] But yeah, once you have that type of experience, it's, for me it was like, oh my gosh, I can't live without this. I find I'm. So much more calm, so much more patient with my children, which patience is not a strength of mine. The key, though, is to not have any expectations. That's the annoying part, is like if you've had that great experience once and you wanna have it again the next day, you can't come in being like, Ooh, it's definitely gonna be a peaceful meditation today.

[00:38:41] You know? You just have to be they, they say, take it as it comes. You just have to. See what happens. 

[00:38:47] Chandler Stroud: Thank you for just overviewing that for our listeners. I'm fascinated as well and might have to dabble in this new form. Okay. I have been asking you a lot of questions, Sarah. I wanna hand it over to Lee, but Lee, one or two quick questions for you.

[00:39:01] What have you witnessed in Sarah's transformation that stands out to you the most? I think out of everything she's shared today, 

[00:39:08] Lea Morgan: I think what stands out is that I'm not surprised. 

[00:39:12] Chandler Stroud: Hmm. 

[00:39:13] Lea Morgan: And I'll tell you why. So. If your senses are attuned enough that you can communicate with those in spirit, you also get a pretty good read on people.

[00:39:28] Not in a obtrusive way, but just like I would a space or a place in the world, you know, just kind of feeling somebody's energy. We all, you know, we've spoken about this before you, we all have energetic communication, whether we're aware of it or not, and Sarah. Possesses so many qualities. That make this not only possible but evident for her that nothing about this has surprised me.

[00:39:59] I don't actually remember our first meeting and I'll tell you why. You know, from Sarah's side of the story, that was a very meaningful interaction, especially with the pocket watch. On my side of that story, I left a reading saying something I got really clearly that didn't seem to connect. 

[00:40:19] Chandler Stroud: Hmm. That 

[00:40:20] Lea Morgan: wasn't the only part of the reading.

[00:40:21] But you gotta to, you know, you gotta remember I get off the phone and think, wow, I wonder what that meant. I hope that meant something. You know, so much of my job is the fate that I'm going to translate what I need to translate for her, even if I don't get the gratification of understanding how valuable that is.

[00:40:39] So to me it was probably just another reading, like any other reading that week. 

[00:40:44] Sarah: And it was so many details. Oh my gosh, there were so many details. I can't even remember all the details 

[00:40:50] Lea Morgan: shared. So I wish I could say that me talking to someone about losing a father. Even young was rare, but it's not What did strike me about Sarah?

[00:41:00] So later, so I know Sarah so well now, right? 'cause she happens to be someone I work with on a regular basis, which is not everybody's desire or cup of tea. It, it works for Sarah and it makes so much sense for Sarah, her ability to enter into a conversation or just a discussion. So open-mindedly. I would say it's just highly important in the success she's had.

[00:41:24] I mean, even when she started telling the story, she was like, I really thought about right sizing my expectations when I got on the first call. That's a really challenging thing to do, and she managed to do it. I can't say that I've even always managed to do that when I've had readings and I know how beneficial it can be.

[00:41:43] Sarah is kind of a, a version of a perfect client. I mean, all clients are amazing, but a perfect client in. The way that we form an energy circuit when I'm in a reading. It's not just me, and it's not just the deceased, it's also the living. And so the way I think of it, I think I've mentioned this before, is like throwing a ball.

[00:42:04] So, mm. So cli the deceased will throw a ball to me, I'll throw it to Sarah, and then that person, you know, what are they gonna do? Well, Sarah's a client who throws it back, you know, even if she doesn't know. So like, let's say for instance, we were back in that time with the pocket watch, I can guarantee you that her response was probably like, huh, I don't know anything about that.

[00:42:23] Oh, well. Very, like her lack of like attachment to having it need to mean something right then is, mm-hmm. Actually helpful, if that makes sense. So because of that, the, the throwing the ball didn't stall out. She probably just let me move on to the next thing. You know, she didn't hang onto it. Yeah. Like, oh, I don't know what that means.

[00:42:43] So something must be wrong here. 

[00:42:46] Chandler Stroud: Yeah, she 

[00:42:46] Lea Morgan: just let it go. She just. And, and what that does is it, and then they throw the ball to me better, and then I throw it to her better, and then she throws it back better. Like it, it kind of gains momentum. I'll also say individuals in spirit are very wise when it comes to human behavior.

[00:43:05] It is really common when they are suggesting something a little out of the ordinary for you to pursue. For them to start really early and suggesting it because they knew no humans need a minute. Like I need to get comfortable with that in my own body. Then I need to get comfortable sharing it with a spouse or a friend.

[00:43:23] Like it could seem crazy to them when they first hear it. I mean, I had psychics tell me 10 years before I did this work. That I would do this work. And I just thought, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. I work in advertising. 

[00:43:33] Chandler Stroud: Mm-hmm. 

[00:43:35] Lea Morgan: But okay. I mean, you know, several who didn't know each other, you know?

[00:43:38] So I recognize that they give information that early for a reason. Their wisdom in our need to take time with it and to explore it. And I always say, they're not giving you things that they want you to do. They're giving you things that they know are on the list of your higher self's wishes. So they're just reminding you of what you wanted to engage in.

[00:44:03] They're not making it up for you Totally. Anyway. 

[00:44:06] Sarah: Which lines with the download that I receive, not from Yeah. But for what I would call my higher self. Mm-hmm. 

[00:44:11] Lea Morgan: Yeah. So. I don't even remember what the original question was, but nothing about Sarah. I mean, Sarah, you, anybody who's listening to this podcast is gonna have the takeaway that Sarah, is she, Sarah's gonna do what Sarah needs to do in life on this spiritual journey.

[00:44:25] You know? 'cause she also puts in the time and that's not easy to do. 

[00:44:28] Sarah: Just following curiosity though, that's been the thing is like, I can't get enough of the books and the content. Related to near death and the afterlife. I mean, I don't know how many of I've read, but I, it's, I read it every night. My husband makes fun of me.

[00:44:42] He's like, if you've got any spiritual book or any near death book, she's read it. You know? We went to the library and I was like, what do you have in, you know, spiritual and named something that I've read four times? I was like, I've read that one. That 

[00:44:56] Lea Morgan: desire she has for content. Is from her higher self.

[00:45:02] You can't manufacture that kind of desire, and that is another breadcrumb or another sign that it's something that her soul really wants to engage in here. And if you don't have it, fine, that's a sign too. You know what I mean? But what I always tell people, whatever you're looking up on the internet, when nobody's paying you or whatever you wanna read about, or whatever you wanna listen to podcasts about or whatever, there's something in there that.

[00:45:25] That spirit, your higher self angels, God, your loved ones are trying to say, Hey, this is your jam. This is something for you to really participate in here. And it doesn't have to be, you know, your job. It can be your recreation or your, your service work or your, or your job or something you talk to friends about.

[00:45:48] I mean, you know, how we apply this. Wanting to be involved in a certain area of life can come in so many different ways. 

[00:45:55] Chandler Stroud: Yeah, that makes sense. Sarah, I know there's even stuff we haven't had a chance to talk about today, but in the next one when we get to dreams, we can also get into your love of astrology and obviously you talked a lot about meditation today, about your training to become a death doula and help ease people around any fears of.

[00:46:17] Passing death so that they can live more fully in the present. I'm just curious, like what does your five, 10 years out like, what does your life look like? Like what are you practicing? Who are you helping? Like what is your day to day? I just, I wanna, I wanna know Sarah, in 10 years. 

[00:46:33] Sarah: Totally. Well, I think I said this, we're definitely building the car as we're driving it, so I am trusting, you know, actively trusting, which I think is one of my big life lessons is to just trust.

[00:46:44] But I would say, you know, it would be a wonderful, and I do have kind of, I, I joke, I'm like, I have a three or four year corporate retirement plan. Like I am retiring from corporate in the next. Three, four, five-ish years, assuming all goes well. And I am actively asking for my angel's help on that. Not only for me, but for my husband.

[00:47:03] So it can, all the pieces can come together. But yeah, I mean, I have a goal of launching a website by the age of 40. I am starting my end of life doula training in a few weeks, so that will be something amazing to have. I'll be continuing. Volunteering with this hospice care, which I really enjoy. But yeah, I mean, I foresee in five-ish years that I will be a spiritual coach full-time, and I think I'll have a few different services that I offer.

[00:47:33] So, you know, end of life doula support would be one of them. I would like to involve some type of reiki, some type of sound healing, maybe coaching people on meditation. I think it's gonna be some version of that. You know, and then the dream would be like to be able to attend events, so like, you know, a wellness retreat in Sedona, and be like one of the, the people who's helping everybody, you know, get what they need from the trip.

[00:48:00] That would be like the ultimate. 

[00:48:02] Chandler Stroud: I think I have someone I can connect you with. 

[00:48:05] Sarah: Yeah, I'm, I'm so excited. So anyways, it's like I said, evolving but becoming more clear as I just continue to ask for guidance and you know, just trust. So it's fun. 

[00:48:19] Lea Morgan: Sarah is the perfect example, or a perfect example because I'm sure there are many of footwork and faith.

[00:48:26] Mm-hmm. Which is what Spirit is always telling me. That surfing this life is about is have faith, but then also be willing to take action. And it's an equal measure. When you can do that in equal measure, things happen. 

[00:48:42] Chandler Stroud: Mm-hmm. 

[00:48:42] Sarah: Totally agree. I mean, I started an Instagram on my maternity leave after I got that download as kind of like the foundation of this next career.

[00:48:51] And that was my one small step that I took. I was like, I'm gonna choose a name and I'm gonna post something and you know, we're gonna keep going. And that's, that's an example of just that one small step. You know, it's like the one small step after that was. Going through the orientation at Vitas for this hospice volunteering, that was the next small step, you know, so it's like small steps that you get nudges on and you don't.

[00:49:18] Rationalize them away, you say, okay, I'm gonna do this one because it keeps coming back and keeps pushing me forward and it feels really good when you do it. So just one small step. 

[00:49:30] Chandler Stroud: I love that. That's great advice. Sarah, we've had so many conversations on this show, Lee, about so many different things and it's been such a joy to learn more from you and hear more about not just your experiences, but.

[00:49:43] The experiences your clients, these heroines are also having in your presence. And I just feel like you do have so much to share and it's such a unique perspective. So I'd love to know, you know, whether it's love, connection, the truth of why we're here. I mean, I know that's a very loaded question, but I'd be very curious to hear, what do you wish that people understood more?

[00:50:08] Lea Morgan: Y just FYI. Four days a week. I'm in a constant masterclass with spirit about this, and the amount of stuff I learned is astonishing. And so it's a little challenging to distill it, but I really feel like from a human perspective, I, I wanna come at this like kind of eye level first. Okay. I wish that everyone knew in their heart the truth of how we're never doing anything without support.

[00:50:36] Chandler Stroud: Mm. 

[00:50:36] Lea Morgan: From God or creator or whatever words you're comfortable with, and angels and guides and loved ones that none of us, even in our most solitary, sad moments are never, ever alone. I mean, that I feel like is really important. Starting line. 

[00:50:56] Chandler Stroud: Mm-hmm. 

[00:50:57] Lea Morgan: I mean, I just got chills all over about it. 'cause it's, there's, if, if people knew how many individuals in spirit sincerely loved them, to the depth, well to the heights of heaven 

[00:51:09] Chandler Stroud: mm-hmm.

[00:51:10] Lea Morgan: All day long, every day, they would be 

[00:51:12] Sarah: astonished. 

[00:51:13] Chandler Stroud: Mm-hmm. 

[00:51:14] Sarah: That's the one that I get the most feedback on, is when I share it on Instagram. Yeah. They're like, that one really made me feel 

[00:51:19] Chandler Stroud: mm-hmm. 

[00:51:20] Sarah: Better, astonishing, cozy. 

[00:51:22] Lea Morgan: Yeah. And. That kind of, that's really all you need. Right? But then on a more el, from a more elevated kind of spiritual perspective, I wish everyone knew that we're all here.

[00:51:35] To remember that all that matters is love and connection. That's all that matters. And we go through, we have these systems of, we have these social systems of how to live and these, all these things that are valuable in their own right, but that when it comes down to it, everything that our soul is trying to hone or gain experience in or gain mastery in is relational.

[00:52:01] It's not about what's my title, what's my accomplishments, what's on my resume? It's about how did I, how relationally did I do in life? And that includes with yourself. How did I do with myself? How did I do with friends? How did I do with coworkers? How did I do with neighbors? How did I do with strangers?

[00:52:17] Did I lead with love and understanding? And that's what we're all gonna be looking back at in our life Review. I mean, I can tell you Ev, because of my job every single day of my life, every decision I make is based on will I be proud of this decision when I rewatch it? 

[00:52:37] Chandler Stroud: Mm-hmm. 

[00:52:38] Sarah: Well, and quick plug, I just read the book six months ago, lessons from the Light by Kenneth Ring.

[00:52:44] It was like a collection of what do people learn from near death and the life review is exactly that. You're. Experiencing your life from the perspective of the person that was with you in that moment, or the people that your actions affected. Right. So from the other perspective, which means the golden rule of treat others the way you wanna be treated, which is the common denominator, which connects all religions, is the thing, like, it is the rule to live by because it, it, 

[00:53:13] Lea Morgan: it is everything.

[00:53:14] That's the point. And it's not easy. It's not easy. Once you have a body and it has health or lack of health, or you have financial challenges or people don't act in their highest spiritual nature and you know, it gets complicated. So I don't, I don't wanna paint a picture of that being simple. Not one of us is gonna do it perfectly.

[00:53:33] Chandler Stroud: Yeah. 

[00:53:34] Lea Morgan: But once you become aware enough to be the conscious observer of yourself and to learn to take time and to learn to use spiritual help. You can get a lot better at it. And that's kind of what we're trying to do here in, in varying different circumstances. I mean, I'm never gonna say any of this is fair.

[00:53:54] You know, everybody's gonna have different circumstances that they're starting from. Mm-hmm. But with within those, what can be done. Sometimes that's, can you be nice to yourself? 

[00:54:06] Chandler Stroud: Mm-hmm. 

[00:54:07] Lea Morgan: Big part of it is I think, you know, 

[00:54:10] Chandler Stroud: I totally agree. 

[00:54:11] Lea Morgan: It's really too complicated to make small, but I think you understand.

[00:54:15] Chandler Stroud: You did did. I thought you did that beautifully. 

[00:54:17] Lea Morgan: Yeah. Thank 

[00:54:18] Chandler Stroud: you. I really appreciate that. Sarah, for those navigating loss right now who are in it, what brought you the most comfort or peace from your journey? 

[00:54:29] Sarah: I think that the, knowing that it's not over. The knowing that when you die, it's not over, that you will see them again.

[00:54:39] And that also when you're living again, it's not over. You can continue your relationship with that person. You can continue to ask them for signs and little tidbits and confirmations that they're there. That brings me the most comfort, Danette. Our home is actually heaven and elsewhere, and we're just here.

[00:54:58] It just makes everything so much more doable and less scary. You know? 

[00:55:03] Chandler Stroud: Yeah, no, I think that's also beautifully said. Thank you for offering that to our listeners. To both of you for being here today. This was such an incredible and special conversation. I took so much away, including a new pipeline of good reads that I will be checking out as soon as this episode ends.

[00:55:24] So thank you, Sarah for that. And yeah, just thank you both for your time, your honesty, your experience, and all of it. I'm so grateful to both of you for being here today. 

[00:55:35] Sarah: It was such a pleasure. This was so fun. Thank you. Thanks so much for doing it, Sarah, 

[00:55:41] Chandler Stroud: so 

[00:55:41] Sarah: much. Anytime. Anytime. You guys wanna do another one, 

[00:55:44] Chandler Stroud: Sarah, I have a feeling with all of the things that you're dabbling in and looking to expand in your own life, we will definitely be hearing from you again.

[00:55:55] And I can't wait. Sal 

[00:55:58] Sarah: can't wait. So fun. Thank you both. 

[00:56:02] Chandler Stroud: To our listeners, if you enjoyed today's episode, please share it with someone who could use a little light. You can also visit healing heroes podcast.com to meet our heroes and share ideas for future episodes. Thanks for listening, everyone, and until next time, remember, be curious, be courageous, and be kind to yourself.

[00:56:25] You've got this.