Best of Hero & Mindset Coach Katie Wee

In this week's Hero Highlight episode, we're revisiting some of Chandler's favorite conversations with Mindset Coach Katie Wee. Throughout Katie's time on the show, she's helped listeners like you explore what it takes to change your thoughts, unlock self-trust, and build a future rooted in joy and alignment with your purpose. With humor, compassion, and lived wisdom, Katie explains how healing happens when we shift our limited beliefs, listen to our nervous system, and take full ownership of our energy. 

From overcoming self-sabotage to embracing manifestation, this episode invites you to challenge your inner critic and become the "conscious creator" of your life. 

What You Will Learn

• [00:07:04] What manifestation means—and how it actually works.
• [00:09:00] Why your energy and beliefs shape the future you experience.
• [00:11:00] How to soothe your inner child while showing up as your adult self.
• [00:12:12] Why healing old beliefs can shift your entire emotional reality.
• [00:14:30] How joy and “high vibration” create momentum toward your goals.
• [00:16:30] Why you can’t love who you are while resenting your past.
• [00:18:30] How to reframe suffering and find meaning in your past challenges.
• [00:19:24] The meaning of "self-sabotage" and how your nervous system affects it.
• [00:21:21] How choosing a second, kinder thought can transform your mood.
• [00:24:33] Why many of us feel safer in stress than in true happiness—and how to shift that.

Resources Mentioned

• The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks (Book)  

 Want to Hear More from Hero Katie? Check Out These Episodes!

• The Mindset Makeover: Healing for Happiness
• Manifestation Masterclass with Mindset Coach Katie Wee
• How to Combat and Heal Anxiety For Good
• Self-Sabotage: Learn to Stop Standing in Your Own Way

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Transcript

[00:00:00] Chandler Stroud: Hey guys, it's Chandler and welcome to The Healing Heroes.

I'm Chandler Stroud, an executive wife and busy mom of two who after years of living with anxiety. Health struggles and an unshakeable feeling like I should be happier, made a profound discovery that changed everything. Join me on a journey where unexpected paths lead to healing and more happiness. On this show, we will explore [00:00:30] unconventional ways to unlock more joy in your own life with the help of my very own healers.

And trusted advisors, the Healing Heroes.

Hey everyone, and welcome back to the Healing Heroes podcast. I'm your host Chandler, and I'm so excited that you're with us today. Thank you for tuning in because we are currently in the midst of our hero highlight series, which is a fun special series that we are [00:01:00] doing leading up to our first. Birthday this July to really help listeners get to know each of the heroes better so that you don't have to go back and listen to all of their episodes, but to also help our new listeners get to know these incredible healers better.

One curation at a time. I think that works, but just in case to get to know our heroes better. One episode at a time, so you're about to listen to a curated. [00:01:30] Episode of My Favorite Moments with Hero and Mindset Coach Katie. We first, let me tell you a little bit more about mindset coaching and why it has been so influential in my journey to heal.

So, mindset coaching is really about shifting the way you think so that you can change the way you feel live, and most importantly, show up for yourself. It's not about being positive all the time. It's about learning to recognize the [00:02:00] thoughts that keep you stuck in anxiety, self-doubt or burnout, and replacing them with beliefs that empower you.

Katie brings warmth and wisdom and real life tools to her mindset coaching. She helps you quiet that inner critic. Reconnect with your worth and believe in your power to create the life that you want. Through her coaching, you'll learn how to manifest with intention, love [00:02:30] yourself more deeply, and feel calmer and more confident even in the midst of chaos.

Katie has played such an enormous role in my own healing journey, not just through our one-on-one coaching sessions, but now having gone to three of her happy camps in both Sedona and Mexico. I can honestly say that she is just such a gift to this world, and I have gotten something different from. Each touchpoint with her, all of [00:03:00] which have helped me immensely with respect to the coaching.

I say this a lot on the show. We talk so much about showing up for ourselves in the present and going back and healing those past wounds, but we often overlook the importance. Creating that vision for our future so that we're not living on autopilot. We actually have a destination. We have a plan or a goal, a feeling that we wanna achieve, that we know we can take actions against, making progress towards those goals.[00:03:30] 

And so creating that vision and even just helping me see that vision. Was such a breakthrough, and Katie was able to do that in spades. And I'm just so grateful for having seen it because now I have a pretty good sense of where I'm going and what actions are gonna take me in that direction and which ones aren't.

So that's been a very powerful piece of my own journey. And then separately at Happy Camp, I can honestly say no two experiences have been the same [00:04:00] because I have been different every time I've gone. It's helped me remove blocks and experience these aha moments that have been so critical in my own healing process.

To know her is truly a treat, and I'm so glad that you all now get to hear some of my favorite moments from our conversations together. And so without further ado, please help me welcome hero and Mindset Coach Katie Wee.[00:04:30] 

Can you share a quick overview of what Mindset coaching is and why someone would reach out to you for help. 

[00:04:38] Katie Wee: Like you said in my bio, I believe we are here to be happy, to experience joy, to enjoy life, and so often our own way of thinking can keep us from feeling happy. So my job is to help my clients become aware of their subconscious belief patterns, what's running in the background, what's actually dictating their thoughts, their behaviors, what's actually creating their future.

So [00:05:00] that they can actually look at those beliefs and go, okay, actually maybe I wanna modify this belief. Maybe I don't believe this belief anymore. Maybe this is outdated. It used to serve me. It's not me anymore. I didn't even really realize it was still in my mind. I didn't know I was still feeling that way from that time in my life.

It's helping unpack a little bit of the way that we've interpreted our past to look at. How that's affecting our present to understand how that's creating our future. Because most people don't want their same life just on repeat. They want more for their [00:05:30] future than what they have experienced in their past.

They want to be able to step into that amazing relationship or start their company or make more money or find that perfect home, or to just feel happier than they've been used to feeling or more fulfilled. And all of those things are so important, and I love reaching goals like that for myself, and I love helping my clients reach those goals too.

So mindset coaching is a way to modify our way of thinking for our own highest benefit, so that the way we're thinking, which is very important, can actually service and [00:06:00] creating the life we really want. 

[00:06:01] Chandler Stroud: I have to say to your point, we think about. What do we want in the future by way of like, where do I wanna live?

Like do I wanna be married? Do I wanna have kids? What job do I wanna have? Right? I don't know that we go deeper than that and really think about like, what do I want to feel? What do I want my life to look like? And really bring that vision to life for ourselves. And until you and I started working together, that's something that no one ever really encouraged me to do or think about.[00:06:30] 

It really was pretty transformational to start really putting together a clear visual of how I wanted to feel and what I want my life to look like. I think it's something we sometimes overlook because we're so stuck in like, what happened yesterday or what's happening today, or even what you need to do tomorrow.

I think it's hard for people to look that far ahead.

For listeners that might be a little less familiar. Katie, can you just quickly share how you define [00:07:00] manifestation? Totally. How do you explain what that is to your clients that you're working with? 

[00:07:04] Katie Wee: Yeah, I was definitely a manifestation skeptic, so I'm coming from that perspective of like, I used to not believe in this.

I used to think manifestation was bs, that it didn't work, that you had to just take like action and hard work and you had to do all the right things and then you would get the right results. And what I've learned about manifestation is that manifestation. Is actually just how the future comes to be.

And while it can feel like magic and it often shows up [00:07:30] like magic, it's truly just the art of creating the future. And no matter what, you're gonna live in a future, right? And is it the future that you really want, with the results that you want, with the things that you want, with the feeling about yourself and your life that you want?

Or are you living in the future of like your worst nightmares? All the things you were hoping would happen that are happening and we've all been there. Sometimes you're like, oh gosh, when it rains, it pours. Or are we somewhere in between? And most of us end up somewhere in between where we're like, kind of, it's what I want, but like a lot of, it's not really what I want and I don't know how to [00:08:00] make it exactly what I want.

And we don't realize that the way that we think about ourself, the way that we feel about ourself is affecting our ability to create the future that we want. So, so often, this was me. We just go on doing all the right things, doing all the like quote unquote, like next steps to create the thing you want.

And then you end up with the thing. You want that relationship or that new job, or more money or a better relationship with your body or a different way that your body's gonna feel or look and you're just not able to make it happen. And you're like, why is this [00:08:30] happening? Because it's about that energetic.

Output. So manifestation is becoming aware of your own energetic output and aligning your energy to the future that you want to create, so that you can actually start living as the version of you who's already achieved or accomplished or received that thing. And when you start living as that version of you, not just with your actions, but also with your thoughts and with your beliefs, and you start taking your actions from those places, then your life starts to magically open up and give you the things that you've been asking for.

It [00:09:00] is. One of my favorite things to teach because it's so deeply empowering. It is so empowering to realize that you can create the changes that you want in your life. For someone like me who's a little bit of a control freak, who's always wanted to control how life happens, I have a big That resonates.

Yeah. Right. And as I'm sure a lot of people listening are like, me too, I came to realize that the control that I do have over life is my own energetic frequency. That's the control that I do have. And when I am in control of my frequency, when I'm in command of my frequency, [00:09:30] when I can change the way that I feel and align that feeling intentionally to the future that I wanna create, then I'm able to receive what I wanna receive.

So if you are a control freak, this is the best way to actually take responsibility for creating the future that you want. 

[00:09:46] Chandler Stroud: And I love that we're not putting down control freaks. No. We're like, Hey, we're with you. We get you. We hear you. Like this is what you've been missing in your life. This is the ultimate lever of control.

[00:09:56] Katie Wee: Yes, totally. It's like for all the go-getters, for all the hustlers, for all the [00:10:00] achievers and strivers and people, especially women who are like, you know what? I can make it happen. Yes, you can. You are right. You do not wanna ignore that inner feeling of like, I can do this. But do it the easy way. Don't do it the hard way.

Do it the way in alignment with the universe, not fighting against and paddling it straight.

The subconscious mind doesn't really know the difference between the past and the present. So if you're feeling a feeling that feels like an old feeling, the body actually doesn't know that it's [00:10:30] not in the past. So maybe that little feeling of feeling a little bit like, did I say something weird at a, a cocktail party when you're 35.

It reminds you of the time that your friends dropped you, your whole friend group dropped you over some, you know, rumor or something that happened in high school or middle school, and you had to go to school every day and eat alone, and it was traumatic and it was hard. And it, your body doesn't know the difference and your palms are sweating and you're freaking out and you're in the bathroom stall.

Like, ha ha [00:11:00] not knowing why you're so freaked out over just, you know, your appearance management in that moment for lack of a better word, but your subconscious mind, which is where a lot of your behavior and your thoughts come from. You know, over 80% of your thoughts are coming from your subconscious mind every day.

It goes back to that place. So it's really in going back to those places and healing those parts of ourself and just saying, Hey, little me. I see you. I, I, I see that this is hard for you right now. That's okay. That's okay. But not being the child only, but [00:11:30] being the adult now with the child and being able to say like, I'm here with you.

I get this is hard for you. I know this might not seem like a hard paper or a hard situation on paper, but this is hard for you right now, and that's okay. And, and having compassion for yourself rather than, what's wrong with me? Why am I feeling this way? Just being able to love yourself when you're having a hard moment.

I 

[00:11:50] Chandler Stroud: think that's such an important takeaway. If you don't remember anything else from this entire conversation, you know, just be kind to yourself and have that [00:12:00] compassion in those moments. I think it's a really powerful piece of advice. So thank you, Katie. I love that

[00:12:12] Katie Wee: life has been working for you this whole time. That belief of like the universe has actually always been on my side, and I think when I was a little girl trying to process that kind of abuse, I felt like. No, the universe is not on my side. It just isn't. That's just the what my [00:12:30] brain had decided, and that was a limiting belief that became my reality, and that's what I saw everywhere.

So every time something didn't work out for me, it was like confirmation. And every time I had to work really hard to create something and then I got it. It was like confirmation that I have to do it all myself. See? Mm-hmm. Everything confirmed, my belief. But what I've started to realize is that. You know, life is not happening to us.

It's happening for us. And if you're listening right now, you might be like, how the heck is that possible? That sexual abuse could be happening for you? How could [00:13:00] that be possible? And I look at my life and I realize, well, if I'd never been through, this will make me emotional. If I'd never been through what I'd been through, I would've never needed to go on the healing journey that I went on because it got too loud inside.

It got too untenable. I had to start healing. And boy was it a beautiful and has it, it's not over. It'll never be fully over. But my healing journey was really hard at sometimes, but also so beautiful at sometimes. And I realized [00:13:30] that every time I unlocked kind of a new belief shift within myself of like.

Oh, I'm not a bad person. Something that I also kind of took on from my abuse or, oh, the world is not against me. Or, oh, I deserve good things. Like every time I unlocked a new belief, my whole life got better. 'cause my whole lens shifted. And I started to see that, like proof of that everywhere. And like somebody's like, oh, we made an extra matcha today.

Here's, you know, do you want it for free? And you're like, Ugh. My favorite drink for free. Like you [00:14:00] start to see the things he loves. Things are always working out for me. Or you know, Billy, my fiance, like reaching out to me on a Hinge, the dating app we met on totally plugging, hinge. Hinge. Why don't you, the sponsor you know, reaching out to me and I see his beautiful face and I have this feeling of just like, I love this face, like.

Oh, maybe I do deserve good things. So this good person likes me and I'm a good person. Like maybe I do deserve good things. Every time I shifted my beliefs, my whole reality got better. My life got lighter, [00:14:30] I got happier. More good things came in, like actual results of like love my business, money, personal freedom inside my body, like feeling better.

So I realized that healing was like addictive to me. 'cause every time I healed more. Everything got better. I was like, oh, this is magic. Why is not everybody doing this? This is like the magical elixir. That's why I created Happy Camp. I was like, let's make healing. Cool. Let's make healing Mic 

[00:14:51] Chandler Stroud: drop on that, I mean, yes, yes.

A thousand percent. Yes, it is cool. It is fun. It can be so fun. Yes, it's hard and messy, but it. Can be [00:15:00] so fun and you do become addicted to it. I'm just gonna lay it out there. I totally agree. Oh, it's the best 

[00:15:05] Katie Wee: thing to get addicted to. 'cause you just keep raising your vibration in your body and then your life gets better and better.

And so if I hadn't gone on this whole healing journey, I wouldn't have gotten to the point where I thought, I have to share this. I feel like I unlocked the keys to the universe. I feel like I discovered some stuff that I have to teach people because so many people are miserable and we don't have to be that miserable like suffering.

The suffering is optional, not all of it, right? We're gonna suffer to some extent no matter what, but [00:15:30] can we utilize our suffering? Can we learn from our suffering and actually heal from it and make ourselves. Happier, as a result, make our lives more whole, ourselves, more whole as a result of that healing.

And so that healing journey brought me to create Happy Camp. Happy Camp is what brought me to have my private clients that I coach, including you. I have this life now where I get to do what I love all the time. And I became the version of me who's the most true me. Because healing is also just shedding all the parts of ourselves that are not actually us.

And the part of [00:16:00] me that's the true me is the best me and this version of me that's the best me attracted the perfect partner who's the match for the best me rather than the people I was with in the past that were the match to the version of me I was at the time that was not very healed. So. Long story short, I love my life now and I wouldn't be here if it weren't for what happened.

So you can't. Hate the situations, the circumstances that shaped you and love who you are at the same time, and I love who I am, [00:16:30] so therefore I accept and I appreciate and understand that those circumstances shaped me into being exactly who I was meant to be.

Adversity makes us who we are. It's like pressure on a diamond makes that diamond and we all get given our adversity as our perfect experience to go through to bake us exactly who we're meant to become. The past couldn't have happened any other way because it didn't. That's something that one of my coaches, Peter Crohn [00:17:00] says, that's very helpful because you can live in this place of just wishing the past were different and thinking it should have been, or you can accept that it was the way it was, and then look at how the circumstances that have happened have made you who you are.

What have you gained from that? Did that experience going through a four year legal battle feel fun in the moment? No. Did it teach me that I am so strong and so resilient, that I'm powerful and can create change in the world? Yes. Did my divorce feel [00:17:30] good in the moment? No. Did it teach me that it's okay to care about your own needs and to put yourself first, that it's okay to honor your path and what your intuition is telling you over the promises that you made to someone else?

Is that okay? And that's a. Big one. A lot of people out there are living in the marriage. That's not the right marriage for them. 'cause they feel like they can't do that. That's not okay. Is it okay to honor your intuition and the voice of yourself that's giving you exactly the momentum that you need to go in the [00:18:00] right direction?

And when we enable ourselves. To learn from those past things and, you know, not like I was perfect in any of those situations. What did I learn from the problems in my marriage? What did I learn from the problems in that legal battle? Where could I redirect the way that I'm thinking? How could I come to things with a different mindset?

All of that learning has made me exactly who I am. I wouldn't be on this path to sharing and healing. It wouldn't be as happy as I am now if I hadn't been through the pain. So where, what can you alchemize? What can you transmute from something dark into something light? And [00:18:30] in that then your suffering is not in vain.

To me, the biggest tragedy is suffering for nothing. We're all gonna go through suffering. It's part of the life experience, go through things that we don't like, but those experiences in contrast and showing us things that we do like and that we don't like. Help us refine what we want in life and help us become who we're meant to be.

So really taking what we can learn from those past events. How did it happen for you? In what ways did you become who you are now? The version of you that's ready to go that next level, the universe has prepared you from [00:19:00] one level to the next, to the next, the next. How did that prepare you for the next thing?

How did that prepare you for the next thing? Understanding how to connect those dots helps us make meaning of our past and helps us stop feeling like a victim in life and start really stepping into our power as the conscious creator.

[00:19:17] Chandler Stroud: How do you define self-sabotage and what are some of the most common ways you think people engage in it? 

[00:19:24] Katie Wee: Hmm. The way I define self-sabotage is when someone's mindset [00:19:30] perceives what they truly want as unsafe, and so they will pull themself back from being able to achieve it. They will not allow the things that would make that possible to really happen.

They will take the action that's most habitual. Not necessarily the action that's going to get them to what they want in order to stay feeling safe. So self-sabotage is often when the nervous system pokes its head out and goes, this, this [00:20:00] isn't good for us because the nervous system wants to stay in what it knows and the familiar so.

Even though it might not be fun to be single and to feel lonely and to feel kind of unloved and like you don't have what you want, if you've been that way for a really long time, your nervous system is really comfortable with just you being the one who has access to your heart. It's scary to open up your heart.

So even if your goal is I want to find a partner, if your nervous system is so [00:20:30] comfortable in, it's just me and me. And letting someone else in is terrifying. Then you'll self-sabotage whenever you have the opportunity to get close to somebody, whenever it gets to that point where you're gonna need to open your heart a little bit so you won't be able to connect to that thing that you want because you're gonna feel more comfortable and being where you don't wanna be.

And so that's when the conscious mind and the subconscious mind sort of become at odds, and we make it impossible for ourselves to achieve what we want because a deeper part of us [00:21:00] feels safer. Being in this place that we quote unquote don't wanna be,

[00:21:08] Chandler Stroud: what's one piece of advice you'd give someone who is just realizing that they've been self-sabotaging themselves, but maybe feels overwhelmed about making changes in their life? 

[00:21:21] Katie Wee: Start small. If you have one moment today. Where you choose differently, you choose a different thought. You really take responsibility [00:21:30] for that.

Second thought, you've won. You've become the creator of your own experience because you're no longer on automatic programming, you are choosing. The way that you're moving, start small. Do do it one time today where you know, dinner, you're cooking and you said dinner was on the table at seven 30 and at seven 30 and you're not done, and you're like, ah, I'm such a failure.

This always happens to me. Oh, second thought. It's not a big deal. I'm doing great. [00:22:00] This dinner's gonna be wonderful. And then when you're sitting at the table at 7 45 and everyone's loving the dinner, and you're loving the dinner, and it truly isn't a big deal for anyone. You're there enjoying that meal, rather than being like, I'm sorry that it wasn't on the table at seven 30 and just long day and frustrated and had a hard day at work, and you're in a good vibe because you're not justifying.

You know, some perceived mistake, which is often the energy we end up in when we're blaming ourself, right? Then we end up justifying. We bring our energy down, down, down, down, down. It's [00:22:30] like just roll with it. Just choose the second thought today. That's more supportive, more kind to you. And when you do that, once you start to realize, oh wow, I just changed my mood.

I went from potentially feeling mad and angry at myself to good and relaxed and happy. I kept this good feeling going. How powerful are you? If you can change your state by changing your thoughts, you are incredible. So be proud of yourself. Do it once today. Do it once tomorrow, and as you start [00:23:00] to do it.

You get addicted to it. 'cause you realize that you can manipulate the way you feel in your life based on the way you think. And when you start to take that control of being the one who decides, you're like a thought bouncer. You're like that one. Nope. This one. Yeah. Like you come in, you know, it's like that scene and knocked up, you know?

[00:23:18] Chandler Stroud: You need a t-shirt that says thought bouncer. Thought 

[00:23:20] Katie Wee: that's a great idea. Yeah, 

[00:23:22] Chandler Stroud: you really should. Yeah. It's. So it's like that. I love that phrase. Yeah. A thought bouncer. Yes. That's exactly 

[00:23:28] Katie Wee: what we need to do for ourselves. Yes. [00:23:30] Just be a thought bouncer, because what goes in there is gonna marinate into that subconscious mind of yours, water that beautiful garden, plant seeds of intention in a positive direction, and then water those thoughts.

And the more you do that, the more you create a countercurrent of energy within your consciousness, within your being, you start to feel better. You start to achieve your goals. Things start to happen more naturally because. Just like the subconscious mind can be a place that automatically puts into action negative behaviors.

It can also be a place that automatically puts into action [00:24:00] positive behaviors. And then before you know it, you've created a business. You're married, you are sitting in more money, you are happier. This is absolutely what's happened in my life. This is what's happened in my client's life. This is what happened in the people who come to Happy Camps lives.

It's. So awesome to see people get on their own team and then start creating the life they actually wanna be living. And you can 100% do that. Just start small.

[00:24:26] Chandler Stroud: Katie, what has been the most surprising thing you've learned [00:24:30] about people in your journey to heal others? 

[00:24:33] Katie Wee: That so many of us are comfortable being uncomfortable. That our state of being what we get used to, how we get used to feeling is often comprised of emotions that we don't like that that stress, anxiety, frustration, fear, worry, I.

Irritation, those, those kind of lower frequency energies that are not conducive to happiness. A lot of [00:25:00] times we get comfortable in them because they we're just used to having felt like that for 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, 40 years, and it becomes kind of our baseline state and actually becoming happier can feel a little bit scary to the nervous system because our nervous system goes, Hey, I don't have a memorized feeling for.

This level of happiness, this level of success, I'm not used to this. My body is not safe in that reality. Our bodies feel safe where we're used to being, which might be in, I don't have what I want. I, I'm not [00:25:30] enough, I'm unhappy, I'm stressed out. And though we don't wanna be there anymore, we've like set up camp.

And so a lot of times when I'm helping people, it's helping them learn to move beyond their upper limit. And the upper limit problem is something that a psychologist Gay Hendrix has talked about in his book called The Big Leap, where that same phenomenon is discussed more extensively. We get uncomfortable going beyond our upper limit for happiness and success, and a huge part of my work is helping people.

Push their upper limit. And what we need to [00:26:00] do is be willing to think differently, act differently, but also soothe our nervous system along the way. We can't just be like, we're changing. Let's do it. We have to also take care of ourselves. We need to have practices to make the body feel safe. To make the body feel like this is okay, we can do this.

And when we bring our, or our nervous system organically along for the ride, we allow the whole human, the scared part of us and the excited part of us to come along and to go, Hey, we could talk to that scared part, like, I got you. It's gonna [00:26:30] be okay. We're gonna be fine. And that's been a huge part of my healing as well, is being open to receiving new levels of wellbeing in my life.

Being able to step into that, being comfortable in that, and bringing every part along. For the ride so that I can inhabit that fully without fear and anxiety. 

[00:26:47] Chandler Stroud: Thank you for that, Katie. I can't think of a better note to end on. I loved our conversation. As always, I'm so grateful for you and all of the time you and I have spent together.

I. But also for [00:27:00] today's conversation, thank you so much for being here and sharing all of your wisdom and insights with everyone today. I know I took many new things away and hopefully our listeners did as well. So really appreciate you. Thank you for everything. 

[00:27:14] Katie Wee: Absolutely. My pleasure. It's honestly been such a.

Treat Chandler knowing you, working with you, doing this podcast. I'm just we're on this path together and it's beautiful to be supporting each other and to be helping others uplift their reality because we've both experienced so much [00:27:30] new joy and freedom and fulfillment, and I think that spreading that is, I can't think of anything better.

[00:27:36] Chandler Stroud: Thank you for that.